Further discussion on Diabetes.

Christine, you're very knowledgeable but just lack a bit of logic.

the  tiny bit of logic that you are missing impedes you from seeing some very obvious things. How the metabolism of humans might have functioned 100,000 years ago has no influence on what foods we should consume today!

I’m sure that you would acknowledge that we’ve been evolving, and on top of that all of our enzymes have been evolving as well, such that today we are beings with sugar and carbohydrate reliance… so what we ate in pre-historic times has no bearing on what we should eat today! In such remote primitive days we may have been forced to eat things that tasted like “shit” – does that mean that we should continue along those lines ? I don’t think so.

Christine I did a lot of the research in 2003-2004 and I was purposively eating foods high in sugar despite my diabetes!

My glucose level that I was maintaining was most of the time above 30.0 mmol/l and I was putting out a minimum of 11 litres of urine per day and it tasted like a beautiful cocktail. I was generating a huge amount of H+ ions and with carbonic anhydrise forming carbon dioxide and water - I am sure sugar is harmless but you must realize that in most cases, where there is sugar there is also hydrogen ions - hence the confusion!

Frank

Interestingly, the organisms of the biome - and remember they are continuous with the mouth flora - secrete and respond to neurotransmitters like serotonin and dopamine. More, in fact, than are present in the brain - with which we think. Palaeolithic Hunter/gatherers did not have much in the way of carbohydrates. Nor do many primitive peoples today. It wasn’t until Neolithic times that ‘farmed’ carbohydrates became available to human populations. Whenever primitive societies are introduced to our carb rich diet, they develop Metabolic Syndrome.

 Btw, the pancreatic, Islets of Langerhans are able to regenerate. An old way of treating diabetes type 2 was to combine diet with insulin injections - to give the pancreas “a rest”. My mum was able to come off her insulin injections and blood pressure meds when I took her off sugar and refined carbs. She had lost most of her sight, had neuropathy in her feet and was subject to sudden dangerous hypos. She lived diabetes free for another 12 years until she was 93. Prob, she would have lived longer but she went out of my care.

 There is no research that I know of that doesn’t link sugar to type 2 diabetes.

 C

On 18 Sep 2018, at 15:03, Frank Pio Russo <frankrusso@frankrusso.net> wrote:

Hi Christine,

You’ve maintained that the peaks and troughs of sugars in diabetes, are reflective of whether one has an infestation of sugar loving organisms in one’s biome or gut flora. Also you recently made the statement: “The job of the digestive system plus microbiome is to turn everything we eat into energy. Don’t need carbs!”

However I am sure that you have a warped understanding of diabetes, for the simple reason that you place too much emphasis on the importance of the gut flora or biome. For a start you don’t understand what glycemic index is all about… I was one of the pioneers in this regard, because I understood what it was all about almost 30  years ago! I made the discovery that the more fibre was present in the food I was eating, the slower the absorption of the sugar or glucose was, resulting in lower sugar concentration in the plasma. I recall this dietician who was the leader of an “Italian- migrant diabetic group” who was very insistent in wanting me to go and talk to her group, claiming that I should share my discovery… however at the time I was very unhappy with my lot in life and refused to go.

Plus you are totally oblivious to the fact that the biome is in the lumen, which strictly speaking is not really “in the body” but only “in the pipe running through the body”! Hence for peaks and troughs to manifest themselves in the blood, what’s in the lumen has to be first absorbed, and this is where my fibre concentration comes in, as the absorption is severely frustrated by the fibre present there! 

Furthermore, I myself don’t see the biome as the ultimate servant! If it does convert some foods into sugar, it’s obviously so that it can consume it for its own needs! The idea that the biome is so unselfish in serving the host - I believe - is somewhat far-fetched! Hence the biome would attempt to digest and consume any sugar that it produces: I always understood that the benefits that flowed from the biome, were the resultant by-products of this digestion which in some cases can result in the production of a compound that our bodies might lack!

Your other statement that the job of the “digestive system plus biome is to turn everything into energy. Don’t need carbs!” is very naïve! I don’t really know what you understand by the term “energy”! Most people have a rather stupid notion that developed following the advent of that moron Einstein – however the truth about what energy is, is quite different:

The truth is that most proteins and fats are mainly used for structural repairs and for growth etc., whereas it is mainly carbohydrates and sugars that are used primarily for energy! This is easily discernible because all of our muscles - except for perhaps possibly the cardiac muscle - tend to run on glycogen which is carbohydrate based. Furthermore, if my understanding of the body’s biochemistry is correct, most of the energy drive of our bodies comes through the Krebs cycle which you have previously admitted is driven by sugar digestion – in other words sugar or glucose is the central energy currency of the human body! Now the reason that carbohydrates are very useful – especially the complex ones – is because they can be in the body slowly converting into sugar… thus the sugar level need not be extremely high, but it can be kept fairly steady by a constant conversion ticking away; and this is a key principle because if you were to have a lot of glucose in the blood the liver or muscles etc. would clear it from the circulation, and eventually you would be at the haphazard and clumsy mercy of the liver, as it would dump heaps of sugar into the circulation! However I reiterate that by having carbohydrates slowly converting into sugars most of the problems are averted!

Frank Pio Russo.

The job of the digestive system plus microbiome is to turn everything we eat into energy. Don’t need carbs!

C